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The school also offers lessons in poker play, and in how to play multiple tables at once. Great read and well done sniffing some dodgy chinks out!!! It affects players more than just the buy-ins they lose, but anyway nice going on this info. I wonder how PS will combat this issue for good. Again about stars' image, if there security seeks out mass scale cheating surely its easier for them to say nothing and protect there precious image and hope no-one cottons on, Maybe that's where there priorities lie. To spend days on end with scumbags? With that said, the 2P2 thread is out of control, collusion went from underestimated to way overestimated in the matter of 2 days, games are still purrty good, keep grinding guys. Especially chenxr, Lazzzzzzzy, gucci53, Xuanyu. Anyway Ive reported spanish players within the last 30 days nothing against Spain, it just so happens they were all spanish players and all were found to be colluding and booted. Thank you for the information. Didn't realise it was such a long post when I started, but a very interesting read. I can very good remember that in nearly every of my SNG that I have played at this time one or more of those names were involved in my games. Dale, Would you be available for an interview in upcoming days regarding this? Hi Dale.. I was one of those who gave up after losing so many times. There are many more than 30 customers of this retail outlet, which is a unique concept to China due to the difficulty in getting funds onto the site from that region of the world. Frankly at the onset I was getting a lot of flack, my credibility- while intact, was definitely in play, you could say that I was put all-in That transaction has sent an unconventional message to the investment community that the main stream media hasn't yet picked up on and that is, forget about what is legal now, lets fight and make it legal What is rather strange about such an envious approach is that, usually, there is no money on the front end of a fight against governments and regulators. I remember the majority of these players, and so much suspect play. I hope this has answered your question completely. Please do not hesitate to let us know any time you need anything. Now I know, and am sick about it. Guys like you and jph would have a tough time recognizing it Multitabling like you do. Nice work. We have luck that Pokerstars support take this problem seriously, but maybe we should stop this kind of tnt.. Excellent Post! I prefer 10s and 20s. Thanks for the article, early in the year I had a horrible stretch, I wonder if this had something to do with it. I reported a few of them in the past for suspected collusion. They've been talking of ditching the DoNs for ages, kinda seems like the power of collusion is enough argument for them to do it Why am I now surprised! Dale, Anymore news? I think Poker Stars should over-compensate you for this, as well as add you to their security team. Absolute scum. Big stack folded a lot of times against the shortstack and called them with an marginal hand against a middle stack - a lot of times against me Thank you for the investigation. Anyways, I am hoping that stars had frozen all of their bankrolls and we will have a refund. Nice post Dale, thanks to everyone who pays way more attention than I do and takes the time to report these things. Will see if PS give some money back Certanly, nice comment about the chinesse ppl in my blog ;. They're probably the most knowledgable and can detect unusual plays if they paid attention. I'd love to say that was down to cheating, but my inept strategy for DON's was probably the cause in equal measure. Guys, if you read this, your karma is so fxxked up, I am pretty sure that all of this will come back to you guys. Each player provides photo ID, and we check their play via our bot detection tools. Crazy thing is, I am a pretty decent player. I went with the assumption that they would be cheating most of the time so if there's one at your table there's likely another. Great article Dale, and very interesting. I'm unable to send PMs over there due to zero post history I'm on fivesmail If that won't work I'll try some other way to get in touch. I am trying to define if online poker is a viable and legitimate form of risk for the investment community and of course, its regulators. So give a try for some k SNGs in the high stakes and yeehaaa Chinese Collusion screws your bankroll on stars to approximately zero. L, and this fxxked up scumbag Sishun are so fucking branded in my braincells. Moreover, the industry has yet to establish their control over the environment where they invite players to play, and that's a serious hurdle.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} I really enjoy poker, but I cannot play on a site that does not protect my safety and security [regarding my money]. Now the same is happening in Fifty A group of Russian and Ukrain players are doing the same. Did you find a lot of instances where you only played against one of the players named? I only play tables so i can recognize alot of the crap that goes on. This is the big problem with DON, I even tough that it would be better to play "anonymous" like in warcraft 3 FFA but then no read on other players That is a very great article. I was playing during that time, DoNs, and lost big time. For anyone using Holdem Manager, I included a SQL statement you can run against your db to find any tournaments you played with the players identified in the 2p2 thread. I mean literally if you knew they were going to be colluding, then you could actually just adjust to it, like any other game condition and it would still be terrible, but if you're playing based on other players in the game using "general strategy" if it's not "optimal strategy" So the SB just calls the 3x, the 8x bet from the BB now stands He had AA, ended up getting called by one of the flatters with TT I tried to get to see the 8x guy's cards, but the dealer shuffled them into the muck, I mean WTF? And your other commentors are correct, the damage by this goes way beyond just the money they cheated. I too have been a victim of many SnG's where the Chinese are dumping chips or collaborating with one another. Great blog post Daleroxxu : and yes it is scary stuff Makes you think its only the tip of the iceberg stuff and that the problems are well rooted. I remember having a go at DoN's at the end of last year, not having nearly the same success as I had when playing them the first time out One of the worst thing is that obviously if you're unaware of collusion at the table, is when you have a marginal situation come up, which you obviously pass on if you're say a medium stack with a short stack about to pass through the blinds - a situation you could probably push through, but you're better EV to sit it out, see what happens to the short stack. Sikkk Any chance linking up my blog dale? Yeah, nice read. Like at least 4 different people at the table wanted to see his cards Collusion sucks. If so, it might be worth reviewing those games for any cheaters that might have been missed. Dale, This is unbeleivable. One of the problems with DoNs is that the regulars play so many tables they don't pay attention to the action. I think they took me 10k in January. Thank you, Dale, for all your efforts. The establishment is a retail outlet similar to a strip mall with several computers set up to allow customers to come in, get set up, and play on PokerStars even though they may not have their own computer, or a credit card to fund their account. I kill'em at the casino's, yet I constantly lose on the Internet? Nice post. Unfortunately I had shipped some money from other Networks to Stars when the collusion ring was introduced, to play some higher SNGs. I firmly believe the same shit is going down at FR 25NL aswell. Bars Hunter. L', 'chenxr', 'flypretty', 'nayouyi', 'hzlsl', 'freetime', 'xxwpk', 'microsoft25', 'wenpk', 'strong arm A', 'degreexia', 'ellena', 'jinse', 'liuli', 'rara', 'dcbm', 'linyin', 'yangguangze', 'pakerster', 'yutian', 'wenpk', 'coroinpu', 'maomao', 'hslj', 'psnyls', 'goloverez', 'leaders', 'guiliang', 'chijianli', 'xiawenju', '', 'wzem', 'mnbqwe12', 'wzhongz', 'superxia', 'sishun' ; Dale, from reading your blog and watching your videos it seems you really like to take time out of your busy schedule to help other players : I posted some graphs showing my DoN results for this month and I've never experienced anything like that before. Hey daleroxxu, thank you very much for your investigation in this scandal, unfortunately I am a victim of this frustrating collusion ring too. I had a lot of situations looks like collusion. Have you ever had a period where you ran so much below EV in those games? There is nothing of concern regarding these players, though we do continue to keep an eye on them to make sure that this remains the case. Our affiliates team watches this group closely to ensure that they cannot play at the same tables as one another, and that they are not sharing information. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}DoN tnt are the place to be for cheaters. I also experienced check fold situation. Just couldn't figure out why I had gotten so bad. They do not seem to be running bots, and all players from there appear to be human by every test we have designed. I would prefer to hear story's about these cheats getting caught and prosecuted form stars, make them public and try to assure us that there doing all they can, and more, not sweep them under the carpet and pay people off to keep sch-tum!!!